Let Janja cook

January 16, 2023

My partner and I watch a lot of competitive climbing. I think I’ve seen every IFSC boulder competition since 2017 or so and most lead climbing competitions since 2020. It’s fun to see people who share your hobbies but are a million times better at them than you could ever realistically hope to be! Mostly fun at least.

One thing we’ve noticed, or think we’ve noticed, is that, across the men’s and women’s rounds, the boulder problems for the women climbers look easier for them than the men’s problems look for the men. Matt Groom has also pointed out in broadcasts moves that the route setters assure him are impossible, rests that route setters have assured him don’t exist, and heel hooks that route setters have told him are supposed to be worthless. I think this happens most often on women’s climbs. Janja Garnbret (the presumptive competitive climbing GOAT) has called for harder routesetting for the women on several occasions, and Staja Gejo attributed a bad finals outcome in Chamonix this year to all of the IFSC’s routtesetters’ being men.

Chamonix 2022 was a rare mess — four women topped the final wall, so a performance that’s normally good for first or second, for one of the competitors, wasn’t even enough to make the podium.

But how often do the route setters miss that badly? Do they disproportionately set easier rounds for the women’s category? Have there been recent changes to relative difficulty? I wanted to know how well routesetters have done working towards what I think their goals are and whether there were differences in how successful they are setting boulders for men and women.

The rules

IFSC scorekeeping

If you already watch a lot of IFSC competitions, you can skip this section. It exists to introduce IFSC scoring to someone who ends up on this blog post without a deep climbing background.

The winner of an IFSC bouldering contest is determined, in order, by:

  1. how many boulder problems each competitor reaches the top of (“tops,” for short)
  2. how many boulder problems each competitor reaches a specially marked “zone” hold of (“zones,” for short)
  3. how many attempts it took them in total for boulders they reached the top of (“topped”)
  4. how many attempts it took them in total to reach the zone for boulders they reached the zone hold of (“zoned”)

tl;dr for scorekeeping in general: there rae two special holds per climb, you get points for reaching each of them, and it’s better to reach things in fewer attempts than more attempts.

If two climbers finish tied across the values above, then the ranking is determined by “count-back”, which means use the ranking from the previous round. If two climbers are tied in the previous round as well, e.g. in a final where the two climbers also tied in the semi-final, then the ranking is determined by count-back all the way back to the qualification round.1

Pre-registration

With those rules in mind, there are a few things that commentators talk about the route setters trying to accomplish. We can use those goals to come up with some definitions for more and less successful boulder rounds.

  1. Boulders should separate the climbers. Most specifically, this means “count-back is a bad outcome.” More generally, it means that it’s best if rankings are determined by tops, next best if they’re determined by number of zones, next best if they’re determined by attempts, and worst if they’re determined by count-back.
  2. The boulders shouldn’t be impossible. The field of climbers should be able to make progress in the four minutes that climbers get for each boulder. There should be few boulders that no one tops, and fewer still boulders where no one achieves the zone.
  3. The boulders shouldn’t be “too easy.” It’s hard to say what “too easy” means in general, but it’s easy to illustrate in extremes. A boulder that everyone in the field tops on their first try (“flashes”) is too easy. A boulder that half of the field flashes is probably also too easy. A boulder that one or two people flash is probably ok.
  4. Rounds should get progressively harder. In broad strokes this means top scores should be lower in semi-finals than qualification and lower in finals than semi-finals. Also, given that a boulder was topped or zoned, it should take more attempts to get the top or zone in later rounds than earlier rounds.

So in the interest of statistical integrity, here are the questions I’d like to answer about men’s and women’s boulder rounds and whether the women regularly get different sorts of rounds from the men:

  1. Do the rounds tend to get harder? I don’t normally watch qualification and only sometimes watch semis. Six climbers make finals, so there are six climbers who have data for all three rounds. For those six climbers, if the rounds get harder, the overall top percentage should decrease, the overall zone percentage should decrease, attempts per top should increase, and attempts per zone should increase over the three rounds.2
  2. How often is making a semi-final or final determined by attempts? How often is making a semi-final or final determined by exactly one attempt? How often is count-back necessary, and for what ranks?3
  3. Do the answers to the previous two questions vary for the men’s and women’s events?

The point of choosing my questions in advance is that I don’t know the answers to any of these questions right now, so the questions can’t be cherry-picked to make a point. I’ll know soon though! Let’s begin.

Analysis

I downloaded IFSC results for every season from 2008 to 2022 (except 2021, which was mostly cancelled). I wrote a little CLI program to I download individual seasons. For each season, I have a CSV with:

  • year
  • eventName
  • competitorName
  • rank
  • round
  • top
  • topTries
  • zone
  • zoneTries
  • competitionCategory

Scripts for analyzing the questions above can be found in that program’s analysis directory.4

Route-setting goals: progression and difficulty

As a first check, it’s worth seeing whether rounds tend to get harder. There are a few ways to do this. The most obvious way is to check on top percentages. Intuitively, if a round has harder boulders, fewer climbers will reach the top of each boulder. But we can’t just look at top percentages in each round — the climbers attempting the boulders in the qualification round are a different population from the climbers attempting the boulders in the final round, so it’s incorrect to compare the results directly. Instead, we can filter to only those climbers who climbed in all three rounds and see how frequently they reached the tops of boulders. Looking at each year, rounds seem to get progressively harder.

This plot5 shows, for each boulder event since 2008, the percentage of boulders that were topped in the final, semifinal, and qualification rounds:

If you squint a little, you can sort of see that finals are on average a bit harder than semis, and semis are a bit harder than qualification rounds.

The trend is a more obvious if you look at the top percentage in each round by year, instead of for individual events:

There are other ways to measure difficulty. Instead of just focusing on tops, we could look at the zone percentage, which should also decrease between rounds if boulders are getting harder. Or we could look at attempts for each successful top or zone, which should increase across rounds if the boulders are getting harder. I checked those as well.

On the left is zone percentage, which, like the top percentage, moves left as the rounds advance. In the middle and on the right are attempts to reach each scoring opportunity, which moves right a bit as the rounds advance.

These measures tell the same story as the top percentage. Overall, the routesetters do a pretty good job of setting progressively more difficult rounds.

Additionally, the general difficulty of the boulders looks pretty well calibrated! If all I told you before you saw someone try a boulder was which round it was from and that the climber who would attempt it made the finals, you might guess that it’s about a coin flip whether they’d top it if it’s a finals boulder, a little better than a coin flip if it’s a semis boulder, and pretty likely they’d top it if it’s a qualification boulder. The distributions for each round look challenging but not impossible. There are outliers, but mostly, the top percentages are in a range I’d consider “reasonable.”6

Route-setting goals: separation

The other goal to check on is separation. There’s no such thing as “good” or “bad” separation in general, just better and worse. The importance of separation also isn’t constant over the course of a competition. If the difference between ranks 38 and 39 is one attempt to the zone hold, that’s not a big deal, since neither of those climbers is all that close to making the semi-final. If the difference between first and second in the final is one attempt to zone in the semifinal, that’s really bad! For each rank, I calculated how often each type of separation splits it from the next rank.

Over all of the finals in the dataset, that ends up looking like this:

separatedBy top zone top tries zone tries countback
withinRoundRank          
1 90 14 70 11 5
2 85 27 59 12 7
3 78 33 57 15 7
4 79 44 43 22 2
5 84 65 25 12 4

Each cell shows how often each rank is decided by a kind of separation. The first row is for rank 1. Going across, it shows that, at 90 events, the winner won because they had more tops than the second place climber, at 14 events, they won because they had more zones than the second place climber despite being tied on tops, at 70 events they won because they had fewer attempts to top than the second place climber while tied on tops and zones, etc. The cells are also colored for their relative frequencies, with darker greens showing a higher relative frequency.

And overall this looks… pretty successful? I’m not 100% sure what I thought I’d see here, but the most valuable places are all decided by tops a plurality of the time, top tries separate much more often than zone tries, count-back is really rare… this looks pretty good!

Semis looks mostly similar:

separatedBy top zone top tries zone tries countback
withinRoundRank          
1 69 13 80 16 11
2 54 21 72 21 21
3 41 27 89 21 11
4 39 36 77 23 14
5 35 31 76 28 19
6 34 28 82 28 17

In both semis and finals, count-back is really rare, zone tries are a less common separator than top tries, and tops are a more common separator than zones. This looks like the route setters are pretty successful at setting boulders that separate the climbers based on how they climbed in the round.

How ranks are separated is also reasonably consistent over time.

This plot shows for the top five ranks in finals and top six ranks in semis, how often they’re separated from the next rank over all of the semis and finals within each year. While the proportion of each type of separation varies, the order of how often each occurs stays mostly the same.

I think this all points to the route setters being consistent in how they approach separation.

But what about differences between the men’s and women’s rounds?

Yeah… about that. Staja Gejo, Janja Garnbret, and others who’ve pointed out rounds where the boulders or routes don’t quite work for the women’s field have a point.

Rounds are progressive in difficulty for both the men and women, but the level of difficulty is noticeably different.

Here, the orange dots are top percentages in women’s rounds, and the blue dots are top percentages in men’s rounds. The hardest rounds tend to be men’s rounds, and the easiest rounds tend to be women’s rounds.

The alternative measures of difficulty are similar, if relatively muddled:

Progression is present for both men’s and women’s rounds, but less pronounced for the women’s rounds — the peak of difficulty routesetters achieve for the women’s field is mostly lower than the peak for the men’s field, and the easiest rounds in the alternative measures also tend to be women’s rounds.

Separation is also less successful for women’s rounds than men’s. For men’s finals, separation is largely like the table we saw before:

separatedBy top zone top tries zone tries countback
withinRoundRank          
1 51 9 28 6 1
2 37 17 32 7 2
3 35 16 32 7 5
4 38 20 22 14 1
5 31 38 15 7 4

Tops are the most common separation, and they separate the winner from second place about half the time.

That’s not the case on the women’s side:

separatedBy top zone top tries zone tries countback
withinRoundRank          
1 39 5 42 5 4
2 48 10 27 5 5
3 43 17 25 8 2
4 41 24 21 8 1
5 53 27 10 5 0

On the women’s side, the most important separation — first vs. second — is most commonly top tries. That’s a drag! Separation on tops is at least the second most common occurrence, but still.

Given the differences in boulder difficulty, men’s and women’s finals are not the same kind of competition. On the men’s side, competitors can focus only on climbing what they can, knowing that topping a few hard boulders is likely to be enough to win. On the women’s side, competitors have to prioritize extreme economy in their number of attempts, expecting that the other competitors will top several of the boulders as well.

Nowhere was this difference more evident than at Moscow 2019. The men had a relatively easy final round, with 14 total tops in the final, four tops for the winner, and three tops for third place. On the women’s side, an efficient three tops and three zones in six attempts was good for… last place.

When route setters have pushed the athletes, they’ve produced some incredible climbing moments. For Adam Ondra’s hand jam, Ai Mori’s high foot in Koper last year,

and Yoshiyuki Ogata’s feet first method at Adidas Rockstars in 2019 (admittedly not an IFSC event),

a part of what made the climbs so spectacular is how hard they were for everyone else in the round. For someone to stand out that way, the boulders have to be hard enough to stop a lot of the field.

So here’s my plea to routesetters. You’re weirdly good at assessing the relative difficulty of different boulders, and I think if you wanted to you could produce women’s finals with scores like the men’s. So don’t hold back! Let Janja7 cook! She and the rest of the top of the women’s field will climb the boulders spectacularly, they’ll look really cool, you’ll look really cool by extension, and everyone else will get an amazing boulder season for both the men and women.

Finals boulders have been relatively easy for the top women climbers for too long. Easier boulders and worse separation at the top of the women’s field have required the top women to climb nearly perfectly to win. With harder boulders, we could see them climb their best.


  1. This actually happened in the Chamonix lead final mentioned above — several of the women climbers topped both the final lead route and the semi-final route. It’s very rare and a very bad outcome.

  2. There’s likely to be some noise in the attempt data. With four minutes, climbers will have time for fewer attempts on a long, powerful boulder with the hard moves at the top than on a dynamic boulder with a low-percentage move right at the bottom. Rolling up to whole rounds mitigates that noise to an extent, because routesetters don’t set whole rounds of long powerful boulders or boulders with low percentage starting moves.

  3. It’s subjectively less bad if count-back is necessary to separate fifth and sixth than it is if count-back determines third and fourth or first and second.

  4. For everything in the program’s repo, you’ll be best off getting set up with nix to make sure you have identical versions to what I have.

  5. I think some of the off-alignment dots are for competitions that had the same name in the same year. For example, Salt Lake City had two competitions in 2022, and they have the same name in the dataset. I may go back and fix this.

  6. Don’t ask me what the endpoints are for “reasonable.” I have no idea. The Meiringen 2018 Women’s final, where the finalists reached the top in 20 of their 24 opportunities, was too easy. The Vienna 2011 men’s final and Munich 2010 women’s final, where finalists reached the top in 2 of their 24 opportunities, were too hard. I don’t know where I’d draw the line for the transition from “too easy” to “acceptably easy” or “too hard” to “acceptably hard.”

  7. and the rest of the really deep women’s field right now


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